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The Lurking Ophelia's avatar

New heuristic: "Live Love Laugh" memes foreshadow someone being otherwise insufferable or self-aggrandizing. Same mentality with the "you call me a b---- like it's a bad thing" rhetoric XD

My high school debate teacher having been one of these characters, she had a poster along the lines of "to the women who are labeled 'aggressive': keep on being assertive; to the women who are labeled 'bossy': keep on leading". To be candid, she made Cathy Newman look like Mother Theresa. Actually, your piece reminds me of my unpublished draft about her:

"Being aggressive, bossy, etc. are flaws for both men and women, but this push to 'reclaim insults' always struck me as a way to co-opt the suffering of actual people and use it to mask your personal failings on the basis of sharing their sex."

In my experience, the people who would most benefit from the "you are worthy of respect" affirmations are the least likely to listen to it, because there is something so irksome about the impersonal nature of the platitude. On that note, I'm curious regarding your thoughts on one of my pieces, "Bullet and the Night". I don't think it's particularly well-written, but it might provide an interesting perspective from someone who tried too much to hold onto a friendship better left to fray.

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“New heuristic: "Live Love Laugh" memes foreshadow someone being otherwise insufferable or self-aggrandizing. Same mentality with the "you call me a b---- like it's a bad thing" rhetoric XD”

Sometimes that is the case with “live love laugh”, just like physiognomy. I think the “you call me a b* like it is a bad thing” tends to be worse. More often than not it signifies petulance instead of independence. From my experience at least.

“My high school debate teacher having been one of these characters, she had a poster along the lines of "to the women who are labeled 'aggressive': keep on being assertive; to the women who are labeled 'bossy': keep on leading". To be candid, she made Cathy Newman look like Mother Theresa. Actually, your piece reminds me of my unpublished draft about her:

"Being aggressive, bossy, etc. are flaws for both men and women, but this push to 'reclaim insults' always struck me as a way to co-opt the suffering of actual people and use it to mask your personal failings on the basis of sharing their sex." “

Agreed in general. There is a time for tactical aggressiveness – and certainly many places for assertiveness. But being unnecessarily aggressive, bossy, petty… are all traits I ascribe to weak unprincipled people. The whole “reclaiming insults” thing to me is like trying to prove you are better than the pigs by getting in the mud and trying to be better at being a pig. I suspect it is an engineering tactic, or at least a useful phenomenon, that keeps people playing the petty game instead of managing the power of linguistics themselves. (the medium is the message type process) I prefer neutralizing techniques where we strip the power of the word with our mind.

"In my experience, the people who would most benefit from the "you are worthy of respect" affirmations are the least likely to listen to it, because there is something so irksome about the impersonal nature of the platitude. On that note, I'm curious regarding your thoughts on one of my pieces, "Bullet and the Night". I don't think it's particularly well-written, but it might provide an interesting perspective from someone who tried too much to hold onto a friendship better left to fray."

(Nice Seether reference I think- but very descriptive especially for your essay)

Unless- it is not a platitude. (hard to tell anymore because so much of our social dynamics are performative) Some people only find their worth through the eyes of others. While this isn’t always bad if measured (this takes nuance) it largely is not a good thing because this often will cause people to mold themselves to what they perceive others want them to be instead of who they are OR who it is they are trying to build themselves to be.

(The above paragraph applies to your essay as well- which I will address at greater length on a comment there)

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Hugh Mercer's avatar

Thanks for reading and your comment. I just read your Bullet and the Night essay. It was very intriguing and there are definitely some relevance to this essay. I have much to say on it, but it will take me a few days. I will reply about that essay on your page instead of here.

I will reply to this comment sometime in the morning. I have to finish digesting your essay.

1520 huh..☠️

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